Solver answer
Paired 8-8-3: how often and how big to c-bet?
6-max cash, 100 big blinds · Button opens, big blind calls · Flop 8♠ 8♦ 3♣ · Big blind checks · Button to act
Updated
The solver's answer
The button's whole range
Bet 77% Check 23%
- ⅓ pot · 1.8 bb 69%
- ½ pot · 2.75 bb 7%
- ¾ pot · 4.1 bb 1%
- 1¼ pot · 6.9 bb <1%
The button bets most of its range, almost always for a third of the pot.
- Pot
- 5.5 bb
- Behind
- 97.5 bb
- Big blind
- Checks
In a 6-max cash game at 100 big blinds, after the button opens to 2.5 bb and the big blind calls, then checks an 8♠ 8♦ 3♣ flop, the button bets 77% of its range and checks 23%, according to a solver answer published free by Poker Skill. The 77% splits by size: a third of the pot (1.8 bb) 69%, half the pot (2.75 bb) 7% and three-quarters of the pot (4.1 bb) 1%.
Why the button bets small and often on 8-8-3
- On a paired flop the big blind holds many weak hands that fold to any size, so a small bet gets those folds and loses the least when the button has to fold to a raise.
- Nearly every hand type bets the small size: trips 81% of the time, overpairs 73%, ace-high 67% and hands with no pair 71%.
- King-queen offsuit is one of the few hands that mostly checks, 63% of the time.
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The full strategy, hand by hand
| A | K | Q | J | T | 9 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A | AA B 59 % | AKs B 100 % | AQs B 99 % | AJs B 98 % | ATs B 87 % | A9s B 76 % | A8s B 97 % | A7s B 52 % | A6s X 57 % | A5s B 71 % | A4s B 53 % | A3s B 99 % | A2s X 67 % |
| K | AKo B 99 % | KK B 69 % | KQs B 85 % | KJs X 53 % | KTs X 54 % | K9s X 52 % | K8s B 99 % | K7s B 85 % | K6s B 87 % | K5s B 72 % | K4s B 64 % | K3s B 93 % | K2s B 79 % |
| Q | AQo B 68 % | KQo X 63 % | QQ B 81 % | QJs B 90 % | QTs B 78 % | Q9s B 81 % | Q8s B 99 % | Q7s B 70 % | Q6s B 73 % | Q5s B 89 % | Q4s B 78 % | Q3s B 89 % | Q2s B 91 % |
| J | AJo B 64 % | KJo X 52 % | QJo B 64 % | JJ B 87 % | JTs B 97 % | J9s B 97 % | J8s B 95 % | J7s B 86 % | J6s B 92 % | J5s B 99 % | J4s B 98 % | J3s B 78 % | J2s Not in this range here |
| T | ATo B 56 % | KTo B 80 % | QTo B 84 % | JTo B 73 % | TT B 90 % | T9s B 98 % | T8s B 91 % | T7s B 77 % | T6s B 95 % | T5s B 100 % | T4s Not in this range here | T3s Not in this range here | T2s Not in this range here |
| 9 | A9o X 58 % | K9o B 92 % | Q9o B 90 % | J9o B 81 % | T9o B 76 % | 99 B 95 % | 98s B 91 % | 97s B 74 % | 96s B 72 % | 95s Not in this range here | 94s Not in this range here | 93s Not in this range here | 92s Not in this range here |
| 8 | A8o B 97 % | K8o B 98 % | Q8o Not in this range here | J8o B 89 % | T8o B 87 % | 98o B 87 % | 88 B 62 % | 87s B 81 % | 86s B 86 % | 85s B 83 % | 84s Not in this range here | 83s Not in this range here | 82s Not in this range here |
| 7 | A7o B 82 % | K7o B 100 % | Q7o Not in this range here | J7o Not in this range here | T7o Not in this range here | 97o Not in this range here | 87o Not in this range here | 77 B 95 % | 76s B 75 % | 75s B 61 % | 74s Not in this range here | 73s Not in this range here | 72s Not in this range here |
| 6 | A6o B 86 % | K6o Not in this range here | Q6o Not in this range here | J6o Not in this range here | T6o Not in this range here | 96o Not in this range here | 86o Not in this range here | 76o Not in this range here | 66 B 92 % | 65s B 75 % | 64s B 77 % | 63s Not in this range here | 62s Not in this range here |
| 5 | A5o B 71 % | K5o Not in this range here | Q5o Not in this range here | J5o Not in this range here | T5o Not in this range here | 95o Not in this range here | 85o Not in this range here | 75o Not in this range here | 65o Not in this range here | 55 B 88 % | 54s B 70 % | 53s X 99 % | 52s Not in this range here |
| 4 | A4o B 80 % | K4o Not in this range here | Q4o Not in this range here | J4o Not in this range here | T4o Not in this range here | 94o Not in this range here | 84o Not in this range here | 74o Not in this range here | 64o Not in this range here | 54o Not in this range here | 44 B 88 % | 43s Not in this range here | 42s Not in this range here |
| 3 | A3o B 99 % | K3o Not in this range here | Q3o Not in this range here | J3o Not in this range here | T3o Not in this range here | 93o Not in this range here | 83o Not in this range here | 73o Not in this range here | 63o Not in this range here | 53o Not in this range here | 43o Not in this range here | 33 B 94 % | 32s Not in this range here |
| 2 | A2o Not in this range here | K2o Not in this range here | Q2o Not in this range here | J2o Not in this range here | T2o Not in this range here | 92o Not in this range here | 82o Not in this range here | 72o Not in this range here | 62o Not in this range here | 52o Not in this range here | 42o Not in this range here | 32o Not in this range here | 22 B 74 % |
- Check: 22.59% of the range (118.8 combos)
- Bet ⅓ pot (1.8 bb): 69.83% of the range (367.22 combos)
- Bet ½ pot (2.75 bb): 6.60% of the range (34.7 combos)
- Bet ¾ pot (4.1 bb): 0.84% of the range (4.4 combos)
- Bet 1¼ pot (6.9 bb): 0.14% of the range (0.73 combos)
Each cell is a hand class. Its letter is the action the class takes most (F fold, X check, C call, B bet, R raise) and its number is how often, in percent. In the labels, s means suited and o means offsuit.
| Hand class | Combos | Check | Bet ⅓ pot (1.8 bb) | Bet ½ pot (2.75 bb) | Bet ¾ pot (4.1 bb) | Bet 1¼ pot (6.9 bb) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| AA | 6 | 41.6% | 55.0% | 3.0% | 0.5% | 0.0% |
| AKs | 4 | 0.3% | 89.9% | 8.9% | 0.8% | 0.1% |
| AQs | 4 | 1.1% | 90.9% | 7.8% | 0.2% | 0.0% |
| AJs | 4 | 1.7% | 92.3% | 5.8% | 0.2% | 0.0% |
| ATs | 4 | 13.3% | 81.9% | 4.8% | 0.1% | 0.0% |
| A9s | 4 | 23.6% | 72.8% | 3.6% | 0.0% | 0.0% |
| A8s | 2 | 3.7% | 82.5% | 11.7% | 1.9% | 0.4% |
| A7s | 4 | 48.5% | 49.5% | 1.9% | 0.1% | 0.0% |
| A6s | 4 | 57.3% | 40.4% | 2.1% | 0.2% | 0.0% |
| A5s | 4 | 29.2% | 66.4% | 4.1% | 0.3% | 0.0% |
| A4s | 4 | 46.9% | 48.9% | 4.0% | 0.3% | 0.0% |
| A3s | 3 | 1.0% | 87.3% | 10.7% | 1.0% | 0.0% |
| A2s | 4 | 67.4% | 28.0% | 4.4% | 0.3% | 0.0% |
| AKo | 12 | 1.5% | 90.3% | 7.7% | 0.5% | 0.0% |
| KK | 6 | 31.3% | 64.4% | 3.7% | 0.5% | 0.1% |
| KQs | 4 | 14.9% | 81.2% | 3.7% | 0.2% | 0.0% |
| KJs | 4 | 53.0% | 44.9% | 1.7% | 0.4% | 0.1% |
| KTs | 4 | 53.8% | 43.4% | 2.4% | 0.5% | 0.1% |
| K9s | 4 | 51.9% | 43.4% | 4.0% | 0.5% | 0.1% |
| K8s | 2 | 1.2% | 83.4% | 12.9% | 2.2% | 0.4% |
| K7s | 4 | 15.3% | 73.9% | 9.4% | 1.3% | 0.2% |
| K6s | 4 | 13.5% | 78.7% | 7.0% | 0.6% | 0.2% |
| K5s | 4 | 28.3% | 66.0% | 5.1% | 0.5% | 0.1% |
| K4s | 4 | 35.7% | 59.5% | 3.9% | 0.8% | 0.1% |
| K3s | 3 | 7.4% | 85.9% | 6.3% | 0.4% | 0.0% |
| K2s | 4 | 21.1% | 64.6% | 11.5% | 2.7% | 0.2% |
| AQo | 12 | 31.9% | 62.7% | 4.9% | 0.5% | 0.0% |
| KQo | 12 | 63.0% | 36.3% | 0.6% | 0.2% | 0.0% |
| 6 | 19.3% | 75.3% | 4.8% | 0.6% | 0.1% | |
| QJs | 4 | 10.3% | 80.4% | 8.3% | 0.8% | 0.3% |
| QTs | 4 | 21.8% | 71.0% | 6.2% | 0.8% | 0.3% |
| Q9s | 4 | 19.3% | 73.1% | 6.4% | 0.9% | 0.3% |
| Q8s | 2 | 1.2% | 84.2% | 13.4% | 1.0% | 0.3% |
| Q7s | 4 | 29.9% | 51.0% | 13.8% | 5.0% | 0.3% |
| Q6s | 4 | 27.5% | 62.8% | 8.2% | 1.3% | 0.3% |
| Q5s | 4 | 11.3% | 79.1% | 8.6% | 0.8% | 0.3% |
| Q4s | 4 | 22.2% | 69.8% | 6.6% | 1.2% | 0.2% |
| Q3s | 3 | 11.3% | 83.3% | 5.5% | 0.0% | 0.0% |
| Q2s | 4 | 9.4% | 76.0% | 11.3% | 3.1% | 0.3% |
| AJo | 12 | 36.0% | 59.5% | 4.1% | 0.4% | 0.0% |
| KJo | 12 | 52.3% | 46.1% | 1.2% | 0.4% | 0.1% |
| QJo | 12 | 35.8% | 57.9% | 5.4% | 0.6% | 0.2% |
| JJ | 6 | 13.0% | 80.3% | 6.0% | 0.6% | 0.1% |
| JTs | 4 | 2.7% | 86.2% | 9.9% | 0.9% | 0.3% |
| J9s | 4 | 3.1% | 87.5% | 8.2% | 0.9% | 0.3% |
| J8s | 2 | 4.8% | 82.2% | 11.9% | 0.9% | 0.3% |
| J7s | 4 | 14.1% | 71.7% | 11.8% | 2.2% | 0.3% |
| J6s | 4 | 8.5% | 76.2% | 12.4% | 2.5% | 0.4% |
| J5s | 4 | 0.6% | 87.8% | 10.4% | 0.9% | 0.3% |
| J4s | 4 | 2.5% | 84.5% | 10.4% | 2.3% | 0.3% |
| J3s | 0.948 | 22.2% | 71.4% | 6.4% | 0.0% | 0.0% |
| ATo | 12 | 44.2% | 52.5% | 3.1% | 0.2% | 0.0% |
| KTo | 12 | 20.5% | 71.9% | 6.8% | 0.7% | 0.2% |
| QTo | 12 | 15.8% | 74.3% | 8.9% | 0.7% | 0.3% |
| JTo | 12 | 26.7% | 65.1% | 6.9% | 1.1% | 0.3% |
| TT | 6 | 9.7% | 81.4% | 8.2% | 0.7% | 0.1% |
| T9s | 4 | 2.0% | 86.6% | 10.1% | 1.0% | 0.3% |
| T8s | 2 | 9.6% | 79.9% | 9.6% | 0.8% | 0.2% |
| T7s | 4 | 22.7% | 70.3% | 5.9% | 0.9% | 0.3% |
| T6s | 4 | 4.7% | 74.1% | 17.5% | 3.4% | 0.3% |
| T5s | 1.224 | 0.2% | 85.2% | 12.3% | 2.0% | 0.4% |
| A9o | 12 | 57.8% | 41.0% | 1.1% | 0.1% | 0.0% |
| K9o | 12 | 8.5% | 82.6% | 7.9% | 0.8% | 0.3% |
| Q9o | 12 | 10.0% | 79.0% | 9.5% | 1.2% | 0.3% |
| J9o | 12 | 19.1% | 69.4% | 9.5% | 1.8% | 0.3% |
| T9o | 12 | 24.1% | 66.9% | 7.3% | 1.4% | 0.2% |
| 99 | 6 | 5.3% | 85.3% | 8.6% | 0.8% | 0.1% |
| 98s | 2 | 9.1% | 82.4% | 7.6% | 0.8% | 0.2% |
| 97s | 4 | 25.8% | 67.8% | 5.5% | 0.8% | 0.2% |
| 96s | 4 | 28.2% | 63.6% | 6.3% | 1.7% | 0.2% |
| A8o | 6 | 3.1% | 82.6% | 11.3% | 2.6% | 0.4% |
| K8o | 4.116 | 2.1% | 83.7% | 11.3% | 2.5% | 0.4% |
| J8o | 2.04 | 10.7% | 80.3% | 8.0% | 0.8% | 0.2% |
| T8o | 5.736 | 12.6% | 78.6% | 7.8% | 0.8% | 0.2% |
| 98o | 4.116 | 13.6% | 79.9% | 5.7% | 0.7% | 0.2% |
| 88 | 1 | 38.3% | 60.8% | 0.4% | 0.5% | 0.0% |
| 87s | 2 | 18.7% | 74.8% | 5.7% | 0.7% | 0.2% |
| 86s | 2 | 14.1% | 78.5% | 6.6% | 0.7% | 0.2% |
| 85s | 1.672 | 17.5% | 75.3% | 6.3% | 0.7% | 0.2% |
| A7o | 12 | 18.0% | 80.4% | 1.5% | 0.1% | 0.0% |
| K7o | 3.312 | 0.1% | 79.8% | 18.5% | 1.4% | 0.3% |
| 77 | 6 | 5.3% | 84.9% | 8.9% | 0.9% | 0.1% |
| 76s | 4 | 25.1% | 68.0% | 5.9% | 0.8% | 0.2% |
| 75s | 4 | 38.6% | 48.1% | 10.4% | 2.7% | 0.2% |
| A6o | 12 | 14.4% | 82.1% | 3.3% | 0.3% | 0.0% |
| 66 | 6 | 7.6% | 83.0% | 8.7% | 0.7% | 0.0% |
| 65s | 4 | 24.8% | 69.2% | 5.1% | 0.7% | 0.2% |
| 64s | 4 | 23.4% | 67.8% | 7.6% | 1.0% | 0.2% |
| A5o | 12 | 29.1% | 64.5% | 6.1% | 0.3% | 0.0% |
| 55 | 6 | 11.8% | 80.1% | 7.5% | 0.6% | 0.0% |
| 54s | 4 | 30.6% | 61.2% | 6.9% | 1.2% | 0.2% |
| 53s | 0.288 | 98.5% | 1.1% | 0.3% | 0.0% | 0.0% |
| A4o | 12 | 20.0% | 72.1% | 7.6% | 0.3% | 0.0% |
| 44 | 6 | 12.5% | 79.8% | 7.1% | 0.6% | 0.0% |
| A3o | 1.404 | 0.8% | 84.1% | 14.2% | 1.0% | 0.0% |
| 33 | 3 | 6.2% | 83.5% | 8.1% | 1.7% | 0.4% |
| 22 | 6 | 25.8% | 68.3% | 5.6% | 0.4% | 0.0% |
Ranges, pot and stacks
- The hand so far: 6-max cash, 100 big blinds · Button opens to 2.5 bb, big blind calls · Flop 8♠ 8♦ 3♣: big blind checks · Pot 5.5 bb · Button to act, 97.5 bb behind
- Pot at this decision, including the bets in front: 5.5 bb
- The button: 97.5 bb behind
- The big blind: 97.5 bb behind
| A | K | Q | J | T | 9 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A | AA 100 % | AKs 100 % | AQs 100 % | AJs 100 % | ATs 100 % | A9s 100 % | A8s 100 % | A7s 100 % | A6s 100 % | A5s 100 % | A4s 100 % | A3s 100 % | A2s 100 % |
| K | AKo 100 % | KK 100 % | KQs 100 % | KJs 100 % | KTs 100 % | K9s 100 % | K8s 100 % | K7s 100 % | K6s 100 % | K5s 100 % | K4s 100 % | K3s 100 % | K2s 100 % |
| Q | AQo 100 % | KQo 100 % | QQ 100 % | QJs 100 % | QTs 100 % | Q9s 100 % | Q8s 100 % | Q7s 100 % | Q6s 100 % | Q5s 100 % | Q4s 100 % | Q3s 100 % | Q2s 100 % |
| J | AJo 100 % | KJo 100 % | QJo 100 % | JJ 100 % | JTs 100 % | J9s 100 % | J8s 100 % | J7s 100 % | J6s 100 % | J5s 100 % | J4s 100 % | J3s 32 % | J2s Not in this range here |
| T | ATo 100 % | KTo 100 % | QTo 100 % | JTo 100 % | TT 100 % | T9s 100 % | T8s 100 % | T7s 100 % | T6s 100 % | T5s 31 % | T4s Not in this range here | T3s Not in this range here | T2s Not in this range here |
| 9 | A9o 100 % | K9o 100 % | Q9o 100 % | J9o 100 % | T9o 100 % | 99 100 % | 98s 100 % | 97s 100 % | 96s 100 % | 95s Not in this range here | 94s Not in this range here | 93s Not in this range here | 92s Not in this range here |
| 8 | A8o 100 % | K8o 69 % | Q8o Not in this range here | J8o 34 % | T8o 96 % | 98o 69 % | 88 100 % | 87s 100 % | 86s 100 % | 85s 84 % | 84s Not in this range here | 83s Not in this range here | 82s Not in this range here |
| 7 | A7o 100 % | K7o 28 % | Q7o Not in this range here | J7o Not in this range here | T7o Not in this range here | 97o Not in this range here | 87o Not in this range here | 77 100 % | 76s 100 % | 75s 100 % | 74s Not in this range here | 73s Not in this range here | 72s Not in this range here |
| 6 | A6o 100 % | K6o Not in this range here | Q6o Not in this range here | J6o Not in this range here | T6o Not in this range here | 96o Not in this range here | 86o Not in this range here | 76o Not in this range here | 66 100 % | 65s 100 % | 64s 100 % | 63s Not in this range here | 62s Not in this range here |
| 5 | A5o 100 % | K5o Not in this range here | Q5o Not in this range here | J5o Not in this range here | T5o Not in this range here | 95o Not in this range here | 85o Not in this range here | 75o Not in this range here | 65o Not in this range here | 55 100 % | 54s 100 % | 53s 10 % | 52s Not in this range here |
| 4 | A4o 100 % | K4o Not in this range here | Q4o Not in this range here | J4o Not in this range here | T4o Not in this range here | 94o Not in this range here | 84o Not in this range here | 74o Not in this range here | 64o Not in this range here | 54o Not in this range here | 44 100 % | 43s Not in this range here | 42s Not in this range here |
| 3 | A3o 16 % | K3o Not in this range here | Q3o Not in this range here | J3o Not in this range here | T3o Not in this range here | 93o Not in this range here | 83o Not in this range here | 73o Not in this range here | 63o Not in this range here | 53o Not in this range here | 43o Not in this range here | 33 100 % | 32s Not in this range here |
| 2 | A2o Not in this range here | K2o Not in this range here | Q2o Not in this range here | J2o Not in this range here | T2o Not in this range here | 92o Not in this range here | 82o Not in this range here | 72o Not in this range here | 62o Not in this range here | 52o Not in this range here | 42o Not in this range here | 32o Not in this range here | 22 100 % |
Each cell shows the share of the class's possible combos in the range.
| A | K | Q | J | T | 9 | 8 | 7 | 6 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 2 | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A | AA Not in this range here | AKs Not in this range here | AQs Not in this range here | AJs Not in this range here | ATs 65 % | A9s 100 % | A8s 83 % | A7s 95 % | A6s 100 % | A5s Not in this range here | A4s 53 % | A3s 85 % | A2s 90 % |
| K | AKo Not in this range here | KK Not in this range here | KQs Not in this range here | KJs 52 % | KTs 55 % | K9s 70 % | K8s 92 % | K7s 80 % | K6s 73 % | K5s 83 % | K4s 84 % | K3s 92 % | K2s 100 % |
| Q | AQo 7 % | KQo 63 % | QQ Not in this range here | QJs 91 % | QTs 72 % | Q9s 91 % | Q8s 93 % | Q7s 97 % | Q6s 88 % | Q5s 90 % | Q4s 94 % | Q3s 84 % | Q2s 99 % |
| J | AJo 60 % | KJo 66 % | QJo 71 % | JJ Not in this range here | JTs 27 % | J9s 25 % | J8s 87 % | J7s 60 % | J6s 83 % | J5s 77 % | J4s 82 % | J3s 86 % | J2s 96 % |
| T | ATo 74 % | KTo 56 % | QTo 67 % | JTo 75 % | TT Not in this range here | T9s Not in this range here | T8s 42 % | T7s 70 % | T6s 56 % | T5s 65 % | T4s 31 % | T3s 33 % | T2s Not in this range here |
| 9 | A9o 71 % | K9o 64 % | Q9o 72 % | J9o 84 % | T9o 86 % | 99 29 % | 98s 49 % | 97s 88 % | 96s 87 % | 95s 35 % | 94s Not in this range here | 93s Not in this range here | 92s Not in this range here |
| 8 | A8o 82 % | K8o 31 % | Q8o Not in this range here | J8o Not in this range here | T8o 37 % | 98o 33 % | 88 67 % | 87s 52 % | 86s 94 % | 85s 86 % | 84s 5 % | 83s Not in this range here | 82s Not in this range here |
| 7 | A7o 69 % | K7o Not in this range here | Q7o Not in this range here | J7o Not in this range here | T7o Not in this range here | 97o Not in this range here | 87o 27 % | 77 86 % | 76s 39 % | 75s 99 % | 74s 100 % | 73s Not in this range here | 72s Not in this range here |
| 6 | A6o 28 % | K6o Not in this range here | Q6o Not in this range here | J6o Not in this range here | T6o Not in this range here | 96o Not in this range here | 86o Not in this range here | 76o 28 % | 66 99 % | 65s 78 % | 64s 99 % | 63s 99 % | 62s Not in this range here |
| 5 | A5o 86 % | K5o Not in this range here | Q5o Not in this range here | J5o Not in this range here | T5o Not in this range here | 95o Not in this range here | 85o Not in this range here | 75o Not in this range here | 65o Not in this range here | 55 99 % | 54s 64 % | 53s 99 % | 52s 100 % |
| 4 | A4o 39 % | K4o Not in this range here | Q4o Not in this range here | J4o Not in this range here | T4o Not in this range here | 94o Not in this range here | 84o Not in this range here | 74o Not in this range here | 64o Not in this range here | 54o Not in this range here | 44 99 % | 43s 99 % | 42s 95 % |
| 3 | A3o Not in this range here | K3o Not in this range here | Q3o Not in this range here | J3o Not in this range here | T3o Not in this range here | 93o Not in this range here | 83o Not in this range here | 73o Not in this range here | 63o Not in this range here | 53o Not in this range here | 43o Not in this range here | 33 99 % | 32s 23 % |
| 2 | A2o Not in this range here | K2o Not in this range here | Q2o Not in this range here | J2o Not in this range here | T2o Not in this range here | 92o Not in this range here | 82o Not in this range here | 72o Not in this range here | 62o Not in this range here | 52o Not in this range here | 42o Not in this range here | 32o Not in this range here | 22 99 % |
Each cell shows the share of the class's possible combos in the range.